AM: Thank
you for the kind words, and in reference to north Wales and
what's in it for north Wales from HS2, you say it's provided the
right connections are made at Crewe. We haven't got the
assurances that we need on the connections at Crewe.
To give some perspective about the costs we're talking about
here, the first 6.6 miles north out of London is projected to
cost £8.25 billion. That's £1.25 billion per mile. You could
fully fund the reopening of Carmarthen to Aberystwyth railway
line, electrify Cardiff to Swansea, reopen the Gaerwen to Amlwch
rail line in my constituency for the cost of a single mile there
of HS2, and still have enough change left for a lifetime of
sandwiches, no doubt, on a new Transport for Wales buffet
trolley.
Now, the Welsh Government has supported the project in the past,
despite you yourself quoting the UK Government study that shows a
loss of economic activity, in the south, in particular, but
that's for the whole of Wales, remember. Can you name another
Government that would willingly support a project, knowing that
it's costing its own economy and that it'll damage that economy
for the long term?
(Cabinet Secretary for Economy
and Transport):...I think it's important to say that in
rebalancing the UK economy, we need to ensure that we rebalance all
of the Welsh economy as well. Many parts of Wales interact very
closely with other parts of the UK, principally those border areas.
Now, it's essential, therefore, that the UK Government spend that
serves the purpose of cross-border economic flow is utilised as
much as possible. That means improving the M4 corridor, it means
improving the Great
Western line, it means improving the north
Wales coastline, it means improving that cross-border area in
north-east Wales and, of course, between mid Wales and the
midlands as well. It means drawing down far more money than has
been spent by the Department for Transport on rail services and
rail infrastructure in Wales in the future than has been the case
in the past...