Transport Ministers were answering questions in the Commons.
Subjects covered included... Rail Fares West Coast Main
Line HS2: Chesterfield Canal Land Purchase Regional
Spending Shipley: Eastern Bypass Aircraft Noise:
Heathrow Electric Vehicles: Public Charging Points Rail
Freight Midland Main Line: Rolling...Request free trial
Transport Ministers were answering questions in the Commons.
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Rail Fares
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1. What steps he is taking to simplify rail
fares. [904809]
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The hon. Gentleman will be aware that, by the end of
2018, almost all passengers will have the choice of a
smart ticket, making buying a ticket easier and giving
passengers much greater choice.
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What plans does the Minister have to ensure that split
ticketing does not erode trust in the rail fare system?
How can he ensure that ticket machines on the East
Lancs line provide the cheapest option to passengers
when there are not necessarily offices to buy tickets
from?
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Simplification of ticketing and ease of understanding
for passengers is extremely important, as is ensuring
that passengers have access to the fares that are right
for them. It is important that train operating
companies look carefully at their ticketing
arrangements to ensure that that is the case.
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Is simpler necessarily cheaper? Because if there is a
choice…
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Simpler may be cheaper, and there may also be
circumstances in which it leads to cost increases. It
is important that we achieve a system that is
comprehensible, in which passengers do not have to
struggle for hours to work out which ticket is the
right one for them. Following the 2016 fares and
ticketing action plan, we introduced advance tickets
for sale on the day of travel that benefit hundreds of
thousands of passengers.
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I think we will take that as a no.
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I am grateful for the Minister’s letter of this week,
saying that his Department is taking on extra resource
to simplify the fare structure on the Brighton main
line. Will he reassure passengers in the area that that
simplification will involve the rounding down of fares,
not just rounding up? Will he also tell passengers when
they can expect the review to complete?
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I can indeed confirm that the Department has taken on
additional resource specifically to address the
anomalies within the Govia Thameslink Railway fare
structure. As the hon. Gentleman said, there will be a
review in order to simplify the structure, with
particular reference to complications on that route. We
are working with GTR to achieve this as rapidly as we
can.
West Coast Main Line
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2. What his policy is on the operation of
passenger services on the west coast main line after
the completion of High Speed 2; and if he will make a
statement. [904810]
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As my hon. Friend knows, once High Speed 2 comes into
operation it will move the express trains off the
existing west coast main line and on to the new route.
That will provide a great opportunity to improve
services to intermediate stops such as Lichfield that
do not have a good enough service at the moment.
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I am slightly reassured by that answer. The Secretary
of State talks about moving express trains off the west
coast main line, but of course we currently have a very
good Pendolino service and the slower West Midlands
trains. Several hundred of my constituents commute to
London every single day. What assurance can the
Secretary of State give them that the Pendolino
service—a fast, express service—will continue, and
indeed that the Pendolinos will be replaced with
equally fast trains when they come to the end of their
life cycle?
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The Pendolinos have many years to go, and I have no
doubt that they will be replaced by a high-quality fast
train in the future. My hon. Friend will have stood on
the platform at Lichfield station and seen trains to
Liverpool, Manchester and Scotland zooming past at high
speed. The new plans will provide an opportunity for
more trains to stop at Lichfield.
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The Secretary of State knows well that I believe that
HS2 is a vanity project that will never come to
fruition. He knows that my constituents in the booming
town of Huddersfield, which he visited recently, have
access to the west coast line and the east coast line,
but most of all they want a good trans-Pennine
connection everywhere.
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Absolutely, which is why I have already announced that
the £2.9 billion upgrade of the trans-Pennine line will
begin this time next year, as the start of a
transformation that is vital to the north. In the
coming months we will also see the arrival of the first
of a complete new set of trains across the north of
England that will transform passengers’ experience.
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Previously I have raised concerns that, under the
Department’s current proposals, high-speed
classic-compatible trains will run slower north of
Crewe than existing trains on the west coast main line
just now. The Secretary of State said that we need to
address that as we go through the 2020s. That is
clearly not good enough. We need certainty now. If he
will not commit to upgrading the west coast main line
north of Crewe, will he look into procuring trains that
can tilt and travel on the high-speed network?
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The new classic-compatible trains and the arrival of
HS2 up to the north-west of England will of course mean
more speedy journey times to Scotland. I know the hon.
Gentleman’s party’s view. We want to see further
improvements through the 2020s to the west coast main
line north of Crewe to ensure that we improve journey
times. We want the best possible journey times across
the whole network, and will continue to work for that.
HS2: Chesterfield Canal Land Purchase
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3. What information his Department holds on plans
by HS2 Ltd to purchase land close to Chesterfield
canal; and if he will make a
statement. [904811]
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HS2 Ltd will bring forward a draft environmental
statement for phase 2b later this year, which will
provide greater detail on the land requirements for the
construction, maintenance and operation of phase 2b of
HS2 and proposed mitigation. This will then be
consulted on, and HS2 Ltd will continue to seek the
input of landowners, local communities and stakeholders
as the design of the railway is developed.
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HS2 is an incredibly important regeneration project,
but so is Chesterfield canal, which has had five years
of blight, being unable to make applications because of
the uncertainty around HS2. Near the maintenance depot
that is proposed for Staveley, there is a piece of land
currently owned by Network Rail that needs to pass over
to HS2. May I encourage the Minister to ask HS2 to get
on with taking over ownership of that land so that
Chesterfield canal can finally put forward plans to
apply for new funding and reduce that blight?
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Let me assure the hon. Gentleman that HS2 Ltd is
working with Chesterfield Canal Trust and is committed
to finding a solution. HS2 Ltd will be more than happy
to meet him to discuss the Staveley design proposals
and the interface with Chesterfield canal. I also
assure him, however, that Chesterfield Canal Trust has
recently publicly said that it is pleased with the
recent commitment from HS2 Ltd and is now more
confident that a solution will be found.
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Two HS2 lines go through Derbyshire—the one that goes
through Newton and the other that is now apparently
going to create difficulties on Chesterfield canal. We
have heard reference to the question of the real cost
of HS2, as it changes quite often. What is the latest
cost, taking into account those two railway tracks
through Derbyshire?
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As I said, Chesterfield Canal Trust is working with HS2
Ltd and is happy with the relationship they have and
the potential outcome regarding the canal area. The
hon. Gentleman has reservations about, and has
consistently raised, the cost of HS2, but it is on
budget and on time. We must not forget that once HS2 is
up and running, it will be the backbone of this
country, bringing along with it 100,000 jobs.
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The Secretary of State is supporting the sale of
Network Rail’s property assets. The Federation of Small
Businesses says that this will put small companies out
of business because the new private owner will rapidly
rack up rents, which will restrict key developments in
places such as Chesterfield. Does he not see that the
sell-off will lose the railway valuable and vitally
important income?
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I apologise hugely, Mr Speaker—I had a momentary lapse.
I have no idea how to respond. Forgive me—I will take
some direction from you.
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The Secretary of State is supporting the sale of
Network Rail’s property assets. The Federation of Small
Businesses says that this will put small companies out
of business because the new private owner will rapidly
rack up rents, which will restrict key developments in
places such as Chesterfield. Does he not see that the
sell-off will lose the railway valuable and vitally
important income?
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for repeating himself. The
Secretary of State met the FSB yesterday and
discussions on negotiations are ongoing.
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In 2015, the DFT accepted Sir Peter Hendy’s plan to
sell £1.8 billion of Network Rail property. These
assets are now worth only £1 billion but generate £90
million of revenue each year. How can the Secretary of
State still argue that this sell-off of the family
silver makes sense? Is it not clear that his plan will
cost Network Rail and British taxpayers dearly?
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The Secretary of State will continue to realise assets
when he can. We will then reinvest them in the railway
network.
Regional Spending
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4. What steps he is taking to improve the equity
of transport spending between
regions. [904812]
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Transport investment decisions are made based on a
rigorous and fair appraisal process that ensures that
spending goes where it is needed and delivers greatest
value for money. Recent analysis by the Infrastructure
and Projects Authority suggests that, in contrast to
the five years leading up to 2010, planned central
Government transport capital spending per head between
2017-18 and 2020-21 is expected to be higher in the
north than in the south. That includes, as the hon.
Lady will be pleased to learn, £337 million for new
Tyne and Wear Metro rolling stock in her constituency.
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Since 2010, transport spending in London has been more
than twice that in the whole of the north, and the
Government’s own northern powerhouse says that
underinvestment stops us exploiting strengths in
manufacturing, energy, health and digital, which could
transform the lives of my constituents. The Minister’s
own Transport for the North says that it will cost £27
billion to transform the north’s economy by taking
advantage of those strengths: will he commit to funding
it?
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We are undertaking unprecedented investment in the
north of England—£13 billion, which is the largest in
Government history. Of course, we want to do more to
ensure that we are building proper transport links and
growing the northern powerhouse, which is why we have
created Transport for the North and put it on a
statutory footing. Over the recess, I was delighted to
attend its very first board meeting as a statutory
body.
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Instead of applying Barnett, why does the Minister not
support his Department’s recommendation of £4.2 billion
of funding for Scotland?
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Scotland will receive significantly greater resources
in the next control period between 2019 and 2024 than
it has in any period in this country’s history.
Shipley: Eastern Bypass
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5. If his Department will fund an eastern bypass
for Shipley. [904814]
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The Government have allocated significant resources to
west Yorkshire for local transport schemes, including
£781 million over 30 years from local growth funding
and other sources, but Bradford Council has not yet
brought forward that scheme for funding. Our
consultation on the major roads network, which could
provide another funding route for such schemes, has
recently closed. We will respond to the consultation in
due course.
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May I place on record my thanks to the Secretary of
State for the interest he has shown in developing a
Shipley eastern bypass, especially when he visited the
area last year? That was in sharp contrast to Bradford
Council, which has shown zero interest in developing
such a bypass, despite it being much needed by local
residents. The council has not even come up with the
costs of development that the Secretary of State asked
for more than four months ago. Will the Minister not
only develop a bypass for Shipley, but bypass Bradford
Council so that we can crack on with a scheme that is
much needed by the local economy and residents?
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As my hon. Friend says, this scheme potentially offers
relief from congestion, better local access and better
connectivity to Leeds-Bradford airport, and we are very
interested to see it proceed.
Aircraft Noise: Heathrow
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6. What plans his Department has to reduce the
number of people affected by aircraft noise near
Heathrow airport. [904815]
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11. What plans his Department has to reduce the
number of people affected by aircraft noise near
Heathrow airport. [904820]
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The Government set noise controls at Heathrow airport,
including total noise limits and aircraft movement
limits for night flights. These controls, in
conjunction with stricter aircraft noise standards
negotiated by the UK at the international level, have
resulted in a long-term reduction in the number of
people affected by aircraft noise near the airport.
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A freedom of information request revealed Government
analysis that expects nearly a million households to
face increased daytime noise if Heathrow is allowed to
build a third runway. Will the Secretary of State visit
my constituents, tens of thousands of whom will face
significantly worse noise if the third runway goes
ahead, and for whom no amount of noise insulation will
be acceptable?
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I have been in the hon. Lady’s constituency on many
occasions and heard the noise there, and I am very
pleased that, over the last 20 years, we have seen a
steady reduction in aircraft noise. That is expected to
continue as a new generation of aircraft appear in
greater numbers. The projections show that, as we enter
the 2030s with that change in aircraft fleet, we do not
expect an overall noise impact on people around the
airport. Nor do we expect an increase in the number of
people within the 54 dB bracket, precisely because a
new generation of lower-noise aircraft—they will also
be lower-emission and lower-fuel consuming
aircraft—will mean a quieter airport generally.
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The aviation national policy statement states that
about 93,000 more people will be significantly affected
by noise if the third runway goes ahead, yet Civil
Aviation Authority figures indicate that more than 2
million people will be affected. Will the Government
acknowledge that vast disparity in numbers, and will
they update the aviation national policy statement?
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Before the aviation national policy statement is
brought to the House, it will be updated off the back
of work done by the Transport Committee and the public
consultations that have taken place—it will be a
refreshed document when it comes before the House. The
impact of noise on residents around Heathrow depends on
an assessment of the rate of arrival of that new
generation of aircraft. As we get into the 2030s, we
expect no overall increase in the number of people in
the 54 dB noise barrier because of the arrival of those
new aircraft. There may be a short period in the
mid-2020s when there is a small increase, depending on
the airport’s rate of growth and the development of the
aircraft fleet, but any such increase will be a
short-term one.
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When will we get a new train service between Reading
and Heathrow? That will help to reduce noise and get
Welsh travellers to the airport.
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Western rail access to Heathrow is part of our plans
for control period 6, and I expect construction to
start between 2019 and 2024. The hon. Gentleman will be
aware that I recently invited the private sector to
bring forward proposals for southern access as well, as
part of a land and surface access package that will
bring substantial increases to the capacity of rail
links to Heathrow airport.
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These problems are not unique to Heathrow; they also
affect areas around Gatwick, which has a lower level of
ambient noise. Will the Secretary of State assure the
House that any further lessons learned about how we
reduce noise at Heathrow can be applied more generally?
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They can be, and the point I did not make in my
response to the hon. Member for Brentford and Isleworth
(Ruth Cadbury) and my hon. Friend the Member for
Windsor (Adam Afriyie) is that we are in the process of
modernising the use of airspace in this country. I hope
and believe that that will allow us to manage much more
carefully respite for airports, and flight paths into
and out of airports, and to do the best we can to
minimise the impact of aviation on communities. There
can be no situation where there is no impact, but I
want us to do our best to ensure that that impact is as
carefully managed and minimised as possible.
Electric Vehicles: Public Charging Points
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7. What steps he is taking to increase the number
of public charging points for electric vehicles at
commercial and industrial centres. [904816]
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The UK is building one of the best global ChargePoint
networks. Our new £400 million ChargePoint
infrastructure investment fund will see thousands more
charge points installed nationwide. We already provide
grants to install charging stations in workplaces,
homes and residential streets, and for buses and taxis.
Through the Go Ultra Low city scheme, Bath—the hon.
Lady’s constituency—and other cities are installing
publicly accessible charging hubs. Also, the new
Automated and Electric Vehicles Bill will encourage
large fuel retailers to install charge points on their
premises.
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In Bath, the council is considering introducing a clean
air zone, focusing particularly on older, more
polluting vehicles, but that will disproportionately
disadvantage the less well-off, who are more likely to
own older vehicles. Will the Government consider a
scrappage scheme for old vehicles to encourage the
uptake of electric vehicles without disadvantaging the
less well-off in our city?
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As the hon. Lady will be aware, substantial scrappage
schemes already exist in the market through the private
sector, and those look to continue.
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Expanding the charging infrastructure is a key part of
encouraging people to switch to ultra-low emission
vehicles, but does the Minister agree that the
Government’s decision to cut the plug-in car grant and
the home charging grant sends out contradictory
signals? Will he commit to maintaining the current
value of both grants in real terms, at least at their
existing levels?
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I am afraid I do not agree with the hon. Gentleman’s
diagnosis of the situation. As I saw when I visited
Nissan recently, electric cars are being taken up at
higher rates than ever before, and the plug-in car
grant has been an important part of that. As the
industry becomes more mature—we are seeing greater
signs of that; the new Nissan Leaf has started to have
stable resale values, which is an important sign of
maturity—we would naturally expect levels of Government
subsidy to fall.
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It is very welcome that the Government are looking at
alternative fuels. Will the Minister agree to place in
the House of Commons Library a summary of the grants,
incentive payments and similar subsidies being paid out
by his Department in respect of each of the different
alternatives being explored?
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As the hon. Lady will know, we have recently made a new
£11 million investment in hydrogen charging, so she is
absolutely right that we take a technology-neutral view
and that we seek to encourage different forms of
technology wherever available. I will certainly talk to
officials about what information we can place in the
Library, but I think much of it is already in the
public domain.
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8. What recent discussions he has had with Cabinet
colleagues on the future of the aviation industry after
the UK leaves the EU. [904817]
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19. What recent discussions he has had with
Cabinet colleagues on the future of the aviation
industry after the UK leaves the EU. [904828]
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23. What recent discussions he has had with
Cabinet colleagues on the future of the aviation
industry after the UK leaves the EU. [904833]
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I meet my right hon. Friends and Cabinet colleagues on
a regular basis to discuss the UK’s exit from the EU.
Ministers and officials across Departments are working
closely to consider carefully the implications for the
aviation sector after we leave the EU.
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Last month we heard that the first formal talks on a
post-Brexit open skies deal with the US were cut short
after US negotiators offered an inferior deal to the
one we currently enjoy, so when does the Secretary of
State plan to return to the negotiating table, and will
he do so with a sense of reality about the impact that
hard Brexit is having on the aviation industry?
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The hon. Lady should not believe everything she reads
in the papers. The discussions taking place between my
Department and our counterparts in the United States
have been cordial and have been going well. There are
no issues that would act as an impediment towards a
sensible post-Brexit agreement between the two
countries.
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A key requirement in any deal with the US may well be
that UK airlines are required to be UK majority owned,
yet very few would be able to meet that standard. What
are the realistic chances of the US ditching that
long-standing policy for the sake of the UK?
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Clearly, airline ownership is more complex as part of
the European Union than it was in the pre-EU days, but
nobody is seriously suggesting that we are not going to
continue with the same kind of transatlantic
partnerships we have at the moment. British Airways and
American Airlines, for example, operate in lockstep
with each other. We will progress in due time towards a
sensible agreement that continues the extremely
prosperous, important and successful transatlantic
aviation routes.
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We have less than a year to sort this out. Already
people who are attempting to book foreign holidays for
next Easter, less than a year from now, are finding
that they are having to accept a clause in the contract
that waives any right to compensation if their holiday
is cancelled because of problems with the lack of an
open skies agreement. Is the Secretary of State trying
to tell us that those reports from reputable travel
agents are myths that we should not believe? Is it not
a fact that the travel industry and the aviation
industry understand how serious this problem is
becoming and the Government, in their complacency, do
not?
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That is not accurate at all, as the hon. Gentleman will
find if he listens to the chief executives of the
International Airlines Group, EasyJet or a number of
other airlines. I have had no airline, bar one, come to
my desk and suggest that they are concerned about the
situation. I think we know which the one is, and no
other airline believes there is any likelihood of any
impediment to aviation next year. Indeed, there will
not be. Can you imagine, Mr Speaker, a situation where
the Spanish, Italian, Portuguese or Greek Governments
did not want holidaymakers to arrive from the United
Kingdom in 2019? I have spoken to my counterparts and
they snort with derision at the idea that the planes
will not fly.
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Snorting with derision may be the response the
Secretary of State has had, but people in my
constituency who work in the aviation industry are
really concerned about how we are going to function
outwith the European Aviation Safety Agency. Will he
please tell us a bit more about how we are going to
function outwith the EASA?
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The Civil Aviation Authority is making all preparations
necessary if it needs to return to operating as a body
in the form that it used to be in. However, it is the
Government’s policy and our intent to remain part of
EASA. There is no reason not to: countries inside and
outside the European Union are part of it, and we
supply a substantial proportion of its expertise. The
leadership of EASA wants us to stay, and I am confident
that, as we get through the process of negotiation,
that is where we will end up.
Rail Freight
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9. What plans he has to increase the proportion of
freight carried by rail. [R] [904818]
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In September 2016, the Government published a rail
freight strategy setting out a vision for how the
freight industry can grow. During control period 5, the
Department is investing £235 million to improve the
capacity of the network. Further funding for investment
in the network will be available in control period 6.
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I thank the Minister for his answer, but is the reality
not that only a small proportion of freight in Britain
is carried by rail, and that it has been declining? By
contrast, a third of all freight in Germany is
transported by rail, and in the US the figure is 50%.
To achieve a substantial modal shift in freight from
road to rail, is it not essential to introduce a much
bigger programme—a major programme—of investment in
rail freight capacity starting very soon?
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We share the hon. Gentleman’s ambition to support modal
shift. The Government are always interested in hearing
about ambitious schemes that would encourage that. As
he will know, we recently launched a call for ideas for
market-led proposals that will enhance the railway, and
I encourage him to take part in that.
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Residents in north Oxford are gravely concerned about
the increase in rail freight and particularly the
possibility of the line being used to construct HS2.
Children are already shaken out of their beds in the
middle of the night because of freight trains. Will the
Minister consent to meet me to discuss the concerns
and, critically, the solutions, which include
monitoring and speed reductions for the trains?
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I obviously sympathise with the hon. Lady’s local
residents. The Government are committed to getting
freight off our roads and on to rail to realise the
environmental and economic benefits of rail freight.
However, the Department does not specify the level of
freight services on the network, as that is a
commercial matter for the freight operating companies
and is a function of market demand. The Oxford area is
essentially at capacity during the day, although the
Oxford corridor capacity improvement scheme will
deliver two additional freight train paths an hour in
each direction. It is anticipated that rail will
support the movement of construction materials for HS2,
but it is not possible at this stage to determine where
the freight services will operate. The maximum
permissible speed that freight trains can travel at
over sections of the network is a matter for Network
Rail as the infrastructure manager.
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It is very good indeed to see the hon. Member for
Sheffield South East (Mr Betts) back in his place.
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Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.
Midland Main Line: Rolling Stock
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10. What the timetable is for new rolling stock
for midland main line to (a) be delivered and (b) enter
service. [904819]
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The Secretary of State’s ambition is for bi-modes to
begin operating on the midland main line from 2021. No
firm decision has yet been taken on rail services in
the next east midlands franchise, which, as the hon.
Gentleman will know, starts in August 2019.
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In the written statement that the Secretary of State
made on 20 July, he promised, when cancelling
electrification of the midland main line,
“a brand new fleet of bi-mode…trains from
2022”.—[Official
Report, 20 July 2017; Vol. 627, c. 72WS.]
We seem to have gained a year somehow. The National
Audit Office then said in a report from 29 March:
“In the case of Midland Main Line, bi-mode trains with
the required speed and acceleration did not exist when
the Secretary of State made his decision”,
and that the Department had informed him of that. I ask
the Secretary of State or the Minister why the
Secretary of State promised in his written statement to
deliver bi-modal trains, which he knew not merely did
not exist but had not even been developed. That is the
situation. Why, at the time, did he not give the House
the full facts instead of leading us to believe
something that possibly was not true and was corrected
only when the NAO produced its report?
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Bi-mode trains capable of running at more than 120 mph
in diesel mode are now in use on the Great Western main
line. Bi-modes will soon be delivering better journeys
on the east coast main line and transpennine routes as
well.
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I am sorry, but that answer simply will not do. In
relation to the midland main line, the NAO report
reveals that at the time when the decision was made,
the Secretary of State knew that bi-mode trains had “a
poorer investment case” than electrification and would
be worse polluters—actually, 25 times worse for carbon
emissions. He also knew that the rolling stock required
for that line—this is the crucial point in relation to
the Minister’s response—would not exist, yet none of
that information was in his statement to the House
cancelling electrification. Does the Minister not
accept that those were serious omissions?
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On the contrary, equivalent trains to the ones that
will be in service were already operational. As I have
just said, bi-mode trains that are capable of running
at more than 120 mph in diesel mode are already now in
use on the Great Western main line.
Great Western Main Line: Electrification
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12. What discussions he has had with the Prime
Minister on the cancellation of the electrification of
the Great Western main line between Cardiff and
Swansea. [904821]
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The Prime Minister and I discussed Cardiff to Swansea
at the time, and reached the view that spending
hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money and
causing massive disruption to passengers to enable the
same trains to travel on the same route at the same
speed to the same timetable as they do today was not
actually a sensible thing to do.
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We know from press reports issued during the Easter
break that the Prime Minister personally made the
decision to renege on an election promise to electrify
the main line to Swansea on the basis of cost. Is not
the reality that the British Government do not consider
the west of my country worthy of investment?
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We made the decisions about electrification on the
midland main line and the line between Cardiff and
Swansea on the simple basis that spending hundreds of
millions or billions of pounds to achieve the same
journey times in the same trains was not sensible. The
trains on the Great Western route are already in
operation, delivering services to people in Swansea,
for whom it is a great and important investment. Trains
on the midland main line require the addition of one
engine to provide a little bit of extra acceleration,
but they already exist, and will be great for that line
as well. So let us hear none of this nonsense from
Opposition Members. In fact, during the years when they
were in government, this was their policy: they
believed that what was important was capacity and
delivery, not electrification, and I agreed with them.
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Facts matter. In a written statement on 20 July last
year, the Secretary of State said that with bi-mode
trains it would be possible to
“achieve the same significant improvements to
journeys”.—[Official
Report, 20 July 2017; Vol. 627, c. 72WS.]
However, as we have heard from my hon. Friends the
Members for Sheffield South East (Mr Betts) and for
Sheffield Central (Paul Blomfield), it is clear from
National Audit Office reports that that statement
cannot be correct.
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No, this was about the Cardiff to Swansea route as
well.
Why did the Secretary of State give those assurances?
Now that he has come to the Dispatch Box, will he
apologise?
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Let us be clear. I stand by every word that I said
then. We will deliver smart new trains and improved
journey times for passengers on the midland main line,
as we are currently doing and will continue to do on
the Great Western main line, and as we will do on the
east coast main line and the transpennine route.
[Interruption.] As I have said, we will also deliver
new trains providing better services for passengers on
the midland main line. The only difference made by £1
billion of spending would be a one-minute saving in the
journey time, and that is not good value for taxpayers’
money.
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On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Given that this is
such an important matter, surely we should have a point
of order on it.
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As the hon. Gentleman will know on the strength of his
nearly 39 years of experience in the House, the effect
of a point of order during exchanges on a question is
to cause all further exchanges on it immediately to
cease. Fortunately for the hon. Gentleman, he does not
risk becoming hugely unpopular as a result of his
attempted point of order, for the simple reason that no
one else was standing and seeking to catch my eye—other
than the hon. Gentleman with his rather bogus, albeit
enjoyable, point of order.
Rail Reform
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13. What his policy is on rail
reform. [904822]
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The Secretary of State’s strategic vision for rail was
published in November 2017, and sets out our key
reforms. Better teamwork between franchise operators
and Network Rail will make the railway more responsive
to customers’ needs and move power closer to local
areas.
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South Gloucestershire Council is pushing ahead with its
plans to deliver a vital half-hourly train link from
Yate to Bristol. Will my hon. Friend explain how his
rail policies will help to achieve that, and will he
consider visiting Yate so that he can see at first hand
how important the upgrade is to our local community?
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Improving connectivity around our great cities,
including Bristol, is exactly the kind of scheme that
our reforms are designed to deliver. The Government
will continue to work closely with local partners to
deliver the MetroWest scheme in the Bristol area. We
are also examining the potential for the new MetroWest
services to be extended beyond their currently planned
termini.
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Tarmac’s Dunbar cement plant in East Lothian transports
substantial amounts of its product down the east coast
main line to London to fuel the construction industry
here. What steps is the Minister taking, as part of his
plan, to facilitate better engagement between
passengers, rail freight users and Network Rail
commuters?
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That is an important subject, which we hope the new
east coast partnership will help to address.
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Order. I know the whole House will want to join me in
congratulating the hon. Member for Bromley and
Chislehurst (Robert Neill) on his engagement to
Ann-Louise Whittaker, and may I say to the hon.
Gentleman that, notwithstanding the fact that he is a
very young man to be planning to rush into matrimony,
we all wish him and Ann-Louise a very happy wedding on
Friday 27 July?
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That is very kind, Mr Speaker; Ann-Louise and I are
very grateful to you.
South-east London Metro Routes
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14. What assessment he has made of the reliability of
rail services on metro routes in south-east
London. [904823]
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I echo your good wishes to my hon. Friend, Mr Speaker.
All train operators must deliver the performance
benchmarks set out in the franchise agreements that
cover all their passenger services. In respect of
Southeastern’s metro service, its public performance
measure has improved from 87% to nearly 89% over the
past year.
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Is the Minister not concerned, first, that many of the
regular commuters on our line do not regard the
performance measures as reflecting reality,
particularly in the rush hour, and, secondly, that
Network Rail only a couple of days ago published a
suggestion that performance will actually deteriorate
over the next coming years and will not pick up again
until 2024? I would like our wedding guests to come on
the train, but I do not think I can advise them to do
so at the moment; does the Minister agree that the
situation is wholly unacceptable, and what will he do
about it?
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We are working closely with Network Rail to ensure
punctual and reliable services on the network. We are
ensuring it is doing everything it possibly can to
maintain and build upon the current improving levels of
performance. My hon. Friend mentioned the performance
targets: the operator will be required as part of the
next franchise arrangements to publish on its website
in relation to each reporting period its performance
against the following metrics: cancellation figures,
short formation figures, and now, critically, timing to
three minutes, rather than the previous performance
targets.
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Mr Speaker, may I associate myself and my hon. Friends
with your kind words to my constituency neighbour, the
hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill),
and wish him all the best?
When I arrived at my station this morning, they were
handing out free copies of fiction: the Southeastern
rail timetable. It is fiction because of not just the
performance of Southeastern, but the poor
infrastructure that we have to endure. We have spent £1
billion upgrading London Bridge, and it is a
magnificent project, but unfortunately we have seen
broken rails and the breakdown of signals last week and
the week before, and there was another stranded train
outside St Johns station on 5 April. This is not good
enough: we need to upgrade the infrastructure around
London Bridge, otherwise all the money will have been
wasted.
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In the next franchise period we will ensure that
performance in quality is an absolute focus for the new
operator. When that is in place moving towards next
year, the new franchisee will adopt the new measures we
have proposed as part of the move towards control
period 6. The use of a public performance measure that
allows services to arrive up to five minutes late at
end destination will be replaced by timed to three, or
T3, and that measure will be used for the services
along this route.
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Like my colleague, my hon. Friend the Member for Eltham
(Clive Efford), I wish the hon. Member for Bromley and
Chislehurst (Robert Neill) all the best.
After years of disruption due to the London Bridge
rebuild, passengers discovered last week that Greenwich
line evening services will not be of the frequency
previously advertised after May because, according to
Southeastern, it does not have enough drivers. Can
Ministers do anything about this frankly risible
situation?
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for bringing that concern to
my attention, and I will discuss it with Southeastern.
Fitness to Drive
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15. What assessment he has made of the
effectiveness of medical requirements for holding a
driving licence in ensuring that drivers are fit to
drive. [904824]
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The current driver licensing arrangements take into
account the risks that an individual poses to road
safety and are designed to be fair and proportionate to
all drivers who remain fit and competent to drive,
regardless of age. The Driver and Vehicle Licensing
Agency keeps all its medical driver licensing policy
and processes under review.
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The Minister will be aware that the current system of
car driving licence renewal includes no requirement at
all for independent medical evidence to ensure that a
driver’s health or eyesight meet the legal
requirements. Does he agree that this
self-certification process is inadequate and open to
abuse, and will he agree to review it?
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There is no evidence—certainly none that we are aware
of or that has been brought to our attention—to suggest
that requiring independent medical evidence in relation
to a driver’s health or eyesight would lead to an
improvement in road safety. The current process is
balanced and proportionate, and focuses resources on
drivers who need medical investigation. Those
drivers—in fact, all drivers—are legally obliged to
notify the DVLA if they develop a medical condition
that could affect their ability to drive safely. Where
a driver has failed to do so, the DVLA will investigate
notifications from concerned friends, relatives, the
police or medical professionals.
Dualling of the A45: Stanwick to Thrapston
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16. What steps his Department has taken to conduct
an environmental study of the dualling of the A45
between Stanwick and Thrapston. [904825]
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The road investment strategy announced the Government’s
intention to develop a scheme to upgrade the A45
between Stanwick and Thrapston to a full dual
carriageway. The scheme is at an early stage of
development and a preliminary environmental study will
be carried out as part of this development work.
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This dualling is something that I have campaigned
particularly hard for. It has the overwhelming support
of local people and would do much to improve the
strategically important link between the A14 and the
M1. The environmental study is key to progress, so will
the Minister join me in pushing for that work to be
carried out as soon as possible?
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My hon. Friend has been a tireless and energetic
campaigner on this issue, as on so many others, and I
can assure him that the environmental study will be one
of the first items to be completed under the options
assessment work.
HS2: Extension to Scotland
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17. What assessment he has made of the potential
merits of extending High Speed 2 to
Scotland. [904826]
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From the day phase 1 opens, HS2 trains will run
directly to Scotland, with journey times of less than
four hours between London and Glasgow. When the full Y
network opens, HS2 will serve both Glasgow and
Edinburgh in three hours 40 minutes to London. The
Department for Transport is working closely with
Transport Scotland and Network Rail to look at further
options that might have a good business case, working
towards the UK and Scottish Governments’ shared
ultimate ambition of a three-hour journey time between
London and Scotland.
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Will the Minister guarantee that, once HS2 is fully
constructed, the journey time between Glasgow and
Manchester will not be any longer than it is currently?
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We have no reason to expect increases in journey times
between Glasgow and Manchester as a result of HS2.
Rail Sleeper Services: Scotland to England
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18. What steps his Department is taking to support
the provision of sleeper rail services between Scotland
and England. [904827]
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In his autumn statement of 2011, the Chancellor
announced a commitment to contribute £50 million
towards the cost of improving and upgrading the
Caledonian sleeper service, including rolling stock and
infrastructure improvements. We understand that new
rolling stock will start to be introduced in the
autumn. Under the devolved arrangements relating to the
railways in Scotland, the Caledonian sleeper service is
the responsibility of the Scottish Government and
operates under a franchise procured by Scottish
Ministers.
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The northern sleeper service is good for the
environment, stress-free, fun and actually rather
romantic. Does the Minister agree that further
development would do much to boost tourism in the
highlands and in my constituency?
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We do like romance, and the new trains will offer
improved facilities, comfort, hospitality and security
for passengers. Passengers’ experience will be
enhanced, supported by improved ticketing, booking
channels and information, station improvements and
support for post-travel arrangements. Staying on the
theme of romance, I know that the hon. Gentleman has a
particular interest in disability and access, for which
these trains will be suitable, as he has a close family
member with disability issues.
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That sounds like a very agreeable adventure to me. I
must obviously add it to my bucket list.
HS2: Phase 2b
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20. What steps he has taken to implement phase 2b
of High Speed 2. [904829]
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In November 2016, the Government confirmed the majority
of the HS2 phase 2b route and launched a consultation
on seven route refinements. The Government made a
decision on the phase 2b route in July 2017. To deposit
the phase 2b hybrid Bill in 2019, HS2 Ltd is developing
designs for the working draft environmental statement.
The Government have provided funding for growth
strategies to HS2 places, enabling the plans to be
HS2-ready.
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Can the Minister assure the House that the hybrid Bill
for HS2 phase 2b will take precedence over Crossrail 2?
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Consideration of the hybrid Bill will take place when
it is due to take place in Parliament. It is
interesting to note that we have had a lot of support
from Members across the House; it would be nice for
that support to be reflected when the Bill comes to the
House, with all Members voting to support it rather
than abstaining.
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We seem to have a lot of jobs created by HS2 in the
midlands. How many have been created so far?
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My hon. Friend is a passionate campaigner for the
midlands and any opportunity I have to talk proudly
about Birmingham in particular, is welcome. Over its
course, HS2 will create 100,000 jobs. It is important
to note that the majority of those jobs will be created
outside London, so opportunities will be vast along the
line.
Channel Fixed Link
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21. What discussions he has had with the Secretary
of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs and with
his French counterpart on constructing a fixed link
across the Channel. [904831]
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The Secretary of State and I have periodic discussions
with our counterparts in our partner countries on a
range of issues.
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Well, can the Minister tell us, then, whether, as the
question says, those discussions have included the
concept of a new fixed link? The Foreign Secretary
seems to think that it is a very good idea, but I am
not clear whether anyone else in the Government or the
Cabinet does.
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This is certainly an idea worth exploring. I repeat
that this is a view shared not just in this Government
but in the French Government. The hon. Gentleman will
recall that at the conclusion of the highly successful
Anglo-French summit it was agreed that there would be a
committee of wise people, a comité des sages,
established to consider reviving the tradition of
UK-French collaboration on a range of matters,
including infrastructure projects.
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Well, I would call the hon. Member for Bassetlaw (John
Mann) if he were here, but he isn’t, so I won’t.
Topical Questions
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T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental
responsibilities. [904834]
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We spend a lot of time talking about planes, trains and
automobiles in these sessions, but we do not spend much
time talking about ships. I want to pay tribute to all
those involved in the talks that took place in London
last week, particularly those from my Department. They
paved the way for an historic agreement in the maritime
sector on cutting carbon emissions from shipping. It is a
really important step forward and I commend all those
involved.
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Will the Secretary of State visit Long Eaton as a matter
of urgency to visit those property owners directly
affected by HS2, some of whom are facing the prospect of
being tens of thousands of pounds out of pocket? Will he
reaffirm his commitment to the House today that no one
will lose out as a result of HS2?
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I know that we have particular issues with some of the
properties in Long Eaton, particularly the railway
cottages. I have worked and will continue to work closely
with my hon. Friend to ensure that HS2 does the right
thing by those people.
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On “Question Time”, the Secretary of State intimated
that, post Brexit, trucks will not be checked and will
move freely through the border, as happens in Canada and
the US. I have an official document that confirms that
all lorries are stopped on the US-Canada border. Will he
apologise for giving out duff information, do his
homework and tell the House what the concrete plans will
be post Brexit?
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As I have said before—I say it again today—there will not
be physical checks that require every lorry to be stopped
at Dover. It is not physically possible to do it, and in
today’s world of trusted trader systems and electronic
processing of customs information, there is no need for
that to happen. I would also say that we are confident
that we will deliver, as is our intention, a sensible
free trade agreement with the European Union that will
make all this an irrelevant discussion.
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T5. Following the delays to electrification, Arriva
has announced a new timetable downgrading the train
service between my constituency of Southport and south
Manchester, which will have significant consequences for
Southport’s residents and its local economy. What
reassurances can my right hon. Friend provide to my
constituents and rail passengers along that line who are
now having to make difficult choices about where they
live and work as a result of this
downgrading? [904839]
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My hon. Friend knows that I have been to Southport and
talked to some of those affected. As a result of those
recent discussions, we have been able to put back in two
extra services to Manchester Piccadilly. Of course, the
original franchise plan was for the services to go to
Manchester Victoria, but I have listened carefully to
what has been said. Timetable changes cannot happen
quickly and easily, but I will do my best to work with my
hon. Friend to ensure that there is a better mix of
services for the future.
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With free bus travel for the under-25s estimated at £1.4
billion a year, why is the Minister opposing a scheme
that could benefit up to 13 million young people, saving
them up to £1,000 each a year, at a time when they face
significant financial hardship due to tuition fees and
the high cost of living?
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This was an intriguing policy proposed by Labour at the
Budget, and the figures did not seem to add up. At one
point Labour was saying it would cost just over £1
billion, but it looks like it might cost closer to £13
billion. The hon. Gentleman needs to go back to school
and add up his figures. We already provide £1 billion
towards concessionary travel to support up to 10 million
older people, and disabled people, too. I would be
intrigued to know whether Labour has budgeted for this
concessionary travel to be before or after 9.30 am.
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Can the Minister explain how she has calculated that
figure of £13 billion? Research by University College
London, which is widely accepted across the sector, shows
that every individual person in the UK could be given
free bus travel for £5 billion.
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The figures have already changed from around £1 billion
to the projected figure of over £13 billion, and now to
£5 billion. When the shadow Minister makes proposals, and
if he wants not only the sector but young people to take
them seriously, I suggest that he comes to the Dispatch
Box with the most accurate figure that comes to hand. We
are doing what we can to support bus patronage, including
enabling local authorities to work with bus providers to
make sure that people can make the most requested
journeys. I must add that we already provide over £1
billion-worth of concessionary travel to older people and
to those with disabilities, and perhaps we could take
Labour’s proposal more seriously if the figures added up.
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T6. Is the Department doing anything to monitor the
effective spending of the additional money being given to
councils to fix potholes, including the £262,000 that was
given to Walsall Council? [904840]
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That is a great question. As my hon. Friend will know,
the pothole action fund is part of a £6 billion fund we
are spending on local highways between 2015 and 2021,
including £105 million for highways maintenance in the
West Midlands combined authority, which includes Walsall.
We ask that highways authorities provide a statement on
their websites on how they utilise the pothole action
fund money they have been allocated and, of course, we
review and assess how that money is spent. We are always
looking for, and seeking to incentivise, best practice.
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T2. Bristol City Council is considering five
different options for clean air zones. Air pollution is
estimated to kill 300 people a year in the city. What is
the Minister doing to help councils to deliver on
tackling air pollution? [904835]
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As the hon. Lady will know, we have spent more money than
any Government have ever spent in this country on
tackling air quality issues. We are working very closely
with local authorities, including Bristol, to do that.
Something like £400 million is already in prospect to
support local authorities in this regard, and we look
forward to seeing further action by Bristol and other
local authorities to support it.
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I was alarmed to learn that Govia Thameslink Railway is
planning to cut Great Northern services at Oakleigh Park
station in the morning peak. GTR has promised me it will
restore the services when new rolling stock is introduced
this year. Will the Minister work with me to hold it to
that promise?
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I would be delighted to work with my right hon. Friend to
address the issue she raises.
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T3. Volunteer drivers in Wrexham, through wonderful
charities like Dynamic and Chariotts, are very concerned
about the impact of possible regulatory change, which may
affect their ability to provide a vital service. Can the
Minister reassure me that the position of volunteer
drivers will not be affected by new
changes? [904836]
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As the hon. Gentleman notes, we are in the process of
seeking to apply EU law as it applies to community
transport. We have launched a review to explore several
specific workarounds that address the concerns that
community transport operators may have. We look forward
to the completion of that review, and we will be
publishing our own thoughts as a result, based on the
substantial input we have gathered.
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The bioethanol industry and the farming community that
supplies it are looking for some certainty about the
introduction of E10. Is the Minister able to give a clear
steer as to when they can expect that certainty and
whether the Government will be giving support?
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My hon. Friend will be aware that the Government have
taken a very important forward position by introducing
the renewable transport fuel obligation. We are looking
closely at E10, and at international precedents and
examples as to how enhanced ethanol fuels have been
brought into play. It is important to respect market
dynamics, so this is a slightly tricky issue, on which we
are spending some time and consideration.
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T4. There is mounting concern on the Clyde that an
active programme is being undertaken by Peel Ports, which
owns both the Clydeport authority and the Mersey Docks
and Harbour Company, to plough billions of pounds of
investment into Merseyside at the expense of the Clyde,
stifling investment in the Clyde’s port facilities. Will
the Minister undertake an immediate investigation into
anti-competitive practices in both of the UK’s two main
west coast ports, as this is
unacceptable? [904837]
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The hon. Gentleman raises an important issue. I am glad
he has brought it to my attention and I am more than
happy to have a meeting with him to discuss it further.
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Yesterday, my hon. Friend—my very good friend—the
Minister of State responded to an Adjournment debate on
impacts of the timetable changes of the Thameslink
programme. He said that Members were welcome to suggest
changes where there had been negative impacts. May I
suggest to him that the reduction in services from
Orpington to Victoria via Bromley South is precisely such
a negative change, which should be looked at urgently?
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I thank my hon. Friend for his question. Of course, that
matter is close to my heart and I will be paying
extraordinary attention to it in the coming months.
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T8. Will the Minister tell us what recent research
the Department has undertaken on whether shared space
schemes without kerbs or controlled crossings are safe
for people with vision impairments? [904842]
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We have been reviewing our accessibility plan within the
Department and will be reviewing how we deal with shared
spaces. The hon. Gentleman knows that I used to chair the
all-party group on eye health and visual impairment,
which has huge concerns about shared spaces. We will be
making a statement on this shortly. We want to make sure
that all of our spaces, especially those around transport
infrastructure, are accessible for people with all
disabilities.
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Reopening Middlewich railway station to passengers is a
matter of crucial importance to many of my constituents.
What progress is being made on developing the business
case for that?
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I know there is strong local support for improvements to
the rail network in Cheshire. I am pleased to confirm
that the Cheshire and Warrington local enterprise
partnership is in the process of establishing a working
group with local authority partners and Network Rail to
examine the feasibility of reopening the mid-Cheshire
link railway line, including Middlewich station, in my
hon. Friend’s constituency, and that the Department has
offered to provide advice.
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A few weeks ago, we had the 10th anniversary of the
introduction of the free bus pass scheme for pensioners,
which is a hugely popular policy. What efforts did the
Department make to mark that anniversary? What assurances
can the Minister give pensioners about the future of the
scheme?
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The bus pass scheme tends to be reviewed every five
years, and what we have been able to do is ensure that
that review does not take place every five years and that
the concessionary bus pass remains in place for as long
as is needed.
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The Secretary of State has long taken a personal interest
in the Boston bypass. Will he join me in commending the
excellent campaign being run by my local paper, the
Boston Standard, which is gathering evidence from local
hauliers, in particular? Does he agree that it bolsters
an already compelling case for an application to be made
to his bypass fund for this road in due course?
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As my hon. Friend knows, I have visited the proposed site
of the Boston bypass on more than one occasion over the
years. I know that a vigorous campaign has been run by
his local paper, local activists and himself. You will
know, Mr Speaker, that we will shortly be bringing
forward the next stage of our proposals for what I have
dubbed the “bypass fund”, and there will be opportunities
to build bypasses in the not-too-distant future.
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T9. Evidence shows that regulating bus services can
improve the service and boost passenger numbers, so why
are this Government siding with bus companies, rather
than bus passengers, by refusing councils the powers to
take back control of local buses? [904843]
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I am a bit confused as to where the hon. Gentleman read
that, because we have not refused any authorities. We are
trying to help local authorities to manage their bus
services and work with bus operators to deliver the best
service that they think is needed at local level. The
decision is best made locally. On top of that, we have
spent £250 million to support bus services in England via
the bus service operators grant, and £40 million of that
goes towards supporting concessionary travel at a local
level.
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My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State is a renowned
blue-sky thinker, so does he imagine that any time soon,
or even some day in the future, people will be able to
get on an HS2 train in Manchester or Glasgow and go
non-stop to the European continent?
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For a moment, I thought my hon. Friend was going to ask
me whether people would be able to get on an HS2 train in
Manchester and travel to Lichfield. Of course, it always
depends on the market. When the first trains started to
operate through the channel tunnel, a fleet of trains was
bought to provide links from the north of England through
to the continent, but the market was never there—although
one never says never.
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The Hussey family and I are grateful for the Minister’s
support following Freddie’s tragic death in 2014, and we
will welcome him to Bristol next week for a trailer
safety summit. On Tuesday, the other place agreed to
improve trailer safety measures; is the Minister willing
to share his view of their lordships’ decision?
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I have greatly enjoyed the chance to work with the hon.
Lady on the issues that she describes, and I am very much
looking forward to attending her trailer safety summit
next week. The Haulage Permits and Trailer Registration
Bill will come to this House in due course, so we will
then have a chance to look at what their lordships have
said.
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