Vauxhall Factory, Ellesmere Port [Andrew Rosindell in the
Chair] 4.00 pm Justin Madders (Ellesmere Port and Neston)
(Lab) I beg to move, That this House has considered
the future of the Vauxhall factory in Ellesmere Port. It is
a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Rosindell. When
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Vauxhall Factory, Ellesmere Port
[Andrew Rosindell in the Chair]
4.00 pm
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(Ellesmere Port and
Neston) (Lab)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the future of the Vauxhall
factory in Ellesmere Port.
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Rosindell. When I am at home in my constituency, I get up
to go to work and I head off in my Astra, of course. I go
past many houses where Vauxhall employees and pensioners
live, and many houses where the family and friends of
people who work at Vauxhall live—and that is before I get
to the end of my street. At the end of the street, I drive
past a newsagent that relies on trade from Vauxhall
employees, like many other local businesses. As hon.
Members will understand from what I am saying, Ellesmere
Port is synonymous with Vauxhall Motors.
The first Vauxhall Viva rolled off the production line in
1964. As the plant grew, so did the town. There is
virtually nobody who lives in Ellesmere Port who does not
have some connection with the plant. At its height, it
employed around 12,000 people. Sadly, with recent job
losses, the number is about a tenth of that today, but it
is still substantial. We also have to take into account the
fact that for every person employed at the plant, three
other people are employed in the local economy. There is
also the potential for greater numbers should we increase
from single-shift production again in the future.
Vauxhall remains a big part of the local economy. We should
build our future success on such jobs: highly skilled,
permanent jobs that manufacture something of national and
local pride. Vauxhall’s advertising material makes much of
the significance of its being a UK manufacturer, but this
is about more than being a UK manufacturer, or a key part
of the local economy.
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(Warley) (Lab)
My hon. Friend is right to stress that Vauxhall is a UK
manufacturer. Is it not absurd, and frankly disgraceful,
that so many public bodies—including police forces—buy
vehicles from abroad? Some use Astras, but many others buy
from companies that do not even have a presence in the UK.
Should we not take that issue on?
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My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. We have had
debates about that before. He reminds me of the time when
we talked about the police in France using Citroëns and
Renaults; the police in Germany using Mercedes and BMWs;
and the police in Spain using SEAT vehicles. As a nation
and as an economy, we should do much more to take advantage
of our procurement power.
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Ms (Wallasey) (Lab)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important
debate. Does he recognise that my constituency contains
Vauxhall workers as well? Their economic future is reliant
on the Government’s decisions in the Brexit negotiations,
particularly given that they have decided to leave the
single market, which puts those jobs at risk.
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right that the impact of the
economy has a much wider footprint than Ellesmere Port—it
goes into north Wales, and hon. Friends from that part of
the world are present. Brexit is key to the plant’s future,
and I will go on to address that shortly.
It is not just about economic impact. The plant is a big
part of the town’s local identity. From the 30 kids’
football teams that play under the name “Vauxhall’s”, to
the sports and social club that has had huge investment in
new 3G pitches and the kids at school who see working at
the plant as part of their family tradition, it is a major
part of our community, and we do not want to lose it.
The plant has regular fights for survival. Every five years
or so, when the next model is being discussed, plants
across Europe are effectively pitted against one another to
bid for the next job. In the past, the productivity and
co-operation of the local workforce, combined with the
tremendous leadership of Unite the Union, of which I am a
member, in its work with management has put us in the best
possible position to secure future work. That partnership
is an exemplar of how to conduct employee relations for the
benefit of everyone.
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Ian C. Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab)
My hon. Friend is making a powerful case. Is that
partnership of unions, employers and Government working
together not the reason why the UK has been effective in
beating off competition from mainland Europe to secure jobs
in the past? That is what we need to do in the future.
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Initiatives such as the
Automotive Council have seen the UK car industry go from
strength to strength. As we know, however, every time a
model comes up for renewal, it gets a little harder, the
demands are greater and the workforce have to sacrifice a
little more. It is a challenge we have always been equal to
in the past, but the convergence of factors undoubtedly
makes securing the next model our biggest challenge yet.
The latest edition of the Astra became European car of the
year in 2016. It enjoyed great success, particularly in the
sports tourer model, which led to 80% of the vehicles built
in Ellesmere Port being exported to Europe. Despite that,
in recent months, tastes have changed and there has been a
dramatic slowdown in sales for that type of vehicle.
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(Weaver Vale)
(Lab)
Does my hon. Friend agree that our Vauxhall plants,
including Ellesmere Port, are among the most productive in
the PSA Group family?
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Yes, I would like to say that they are, but we are now
being judged by a new benchmark. I will go into some detail
about how things are being counted against the workforce’s
excellent productivity.
The cuts in sales have led to cuts in the workforce, with
400 jobs going in October and another 250 earlier this
year. In the past, a downturn has led to agreements between
the unions and management about reduced hours to protect
jobs, but the new owner, the PSA Group, has shown a
different approach. That must act as a warning that we
cannot expect any sentimentality from it, and that, as it
has said consistently from the day it took over, plants
will be judged on their efficiency.
History tells us that the local unions and management are
well capable of meeting that challenge, but numerous
factors are at play that will impede their ability to do
that. It is our job—not just the job of the Opposition, but
of the Government—to help them to overcome those obstacles
in a highly competitive market.
Let us start with the big challenge: Brexit. Uncertainty
across a sector can have a real impact on investment
decisions. As we know, investment decisions in the
automotive sector are traditionally made three to five
years in advance, so decisions about investment in the
post-Brexit world will begin to be made shortly.
In that respect, the timing could not be worse, as the
current model in production in Ellesmere Port is due to be
discontinued around the same time, in 2021. The chief
executive of the PSA Group recently said:
“We cannot invest in a world of uncertainty.”
Some might say that is an excuse. Some might call it a
distraction. I do not mind what it is called, as long as we
do not ignore it.
After the Prime Minister’s Mansion House speech, the PSA
Group and other manufacturers in the sector made similar
points about the lack of the clarity, so I asked her to
provide certainty by confirming that the trading
arrangements in the automotive sector will be no less
favourable than they are now. I am sorry to say that her
answer did not give any clarity and there was certainly no
unequivocal guarantee.
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(Birkenhead) (Lab)
Might I put on record what we have spoken about in private,
that we should go to see the Secretary of State for Exiting
the European Union and push for a sectional deal,
particularly for Vauxhall and other companies producing
cars and vans in this country? A second stage could be that
we get unions and management in France and Germany to
effectively lobby their Governments.
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My right hon. Friend is absolutely right to say that the
sector is too important to be left on its own. It directly
or indirectly employs around 800,000 people and generates
almost 10% of the country’s manufacturing output. Half of
all the UK’s car production is exported to the EU, and that
figure goes up to between 70% and 80% for the Vauxhall
plant in my constituency.
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(Warwick and
Leamington) (Lab)
I concur with my right hon. Friend the Member for
Birkenhead (Frank Field). Does my hon. Friend agree that
the statement made by the CEO of the PSA Group, Carlos
Tavares, is a canary in the mine? It is the first warning
about Brexit and the serious impact it will have on our
economy.
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That is certainly a huge concern locally. We do not want to
get into a game of pointing fingers; we want action,
certainty and investment in the plant, but it will be a
challenge. A report by the Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy Committee recently concluded that
“leaving the EU without a deal would undoubtedly be hugely
damaging to the UK automotive sector, more so than to other
European countries… Overall, no-one has argued there are
advantages to be gained from Brexit for the automotive
industry for the foreseeable future.”
Now that we are leaving the EU, it is important to
recognise that there is no upside for one of our most
vulnerable and important sectors. We must do everything
possible to safeguard jobs and investment, because history
shows us that once manufacturing jobs are lost, they very
rarely come back.
So far, the Government’s response has been denial. We need
them to work tirelessly to reassure major international
companies that their future competitiveness will not be
fatally undermined by tariffs or regulatory divergence, and
that they can invest with confidence. I want us to get into
a position in which Brexit cannot be used as an excuse not
to invest in UK manufacturing. A clear and unequivocal
commitment to a customs union would help, so that the many
parts that travel back and forth across the continent can
do so without impediment and without the final product
becoming uncompetitive. The Society of Motor Manufacturers
and Traders has estimated that failure to properly cater
for such issues in the negotiations could result in an
increase of more than £1,500 in the average cost of a
vehicle. What business can absorb that without a massive
impact?
There is a school of thought that says that some sort of
customs union will prevent us from striking up trade deals
on our own, but as the BEIS Committee said, the reality is
that there are no advantages for the automotive sector from
Brexit. If asked to choose between preserving trade with up
to 80% of existing customers or knowingly jeopardising
existing trade in exchange for the chance of some new
business with unspecified countries at an unspecified
future time, I believe most people would go for the former
and protect existing jobs.
All I have seen from Cabinet Ministers who have been
pressed on the issue is bluffing, complacency and dangerous
fantasies about a green and pleasant land. The automotive
industry will survive and flourish only if we protect it
now. I do not expect the Minister’s reply to provide the
laser-like clarity that has been missing so far, so I will
focus instead on matters that are wholly within the
Government’s gift, that are not down to negotiations, that
can make a real difference now, and that would still be key
to securing the plant’s future even if a new model were
announced tomorrow.
The first such matter is business rates, which can have a
deterrent effect on investment and can mean that
efficiencies have to be sought in alternative areas. Some
60% of the total property tax bill of the former Opel group
came from the UK, even though the UK accounted for only 8%
of the group’s total footprint. In Germany, significant
rate reductions are provided to large companies that are
intensive energy users.
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(Wirral South)
(Lab)
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(in the Chair)
I call .
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All red-headed women are actually the same, Mr Rosindell,
so do not worry.
Is my hon. Friend aware that I went to see Treasury
Ministers well over a year ago about the business rates
problem in car manufacturing, but they were simply unable
to do anything? Does he agree that when it comes to meeting
the challenge of Brexit and keeping manufacturing jobs in
this country, that sort of approach is just not going to
work?
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The motor industry has
been pressing on the business rates issue for several
years, and it pressed again this year; I know that hon.
Members with an interest in the subject have pressed on it,
too. The case argues itself. An EY study has demonstrated
that de-rating certain types of plant and machinery, not
just in the automotive sector but across manufacturing,
could stimulate additional investment of more than £8.7
billion and support an additional 33,000 jobs per annum.
That is something we can do, and the argument for doing it
is clear.
Let me give another example that relates to Brexit. If
Vauxhall invested in solar panels on the site in the
attempt to save on energy costs, it would attract a higher
business rate. That does not seem in tune with much of what
the Government are trying to achieve. Vauxhall has learned
that its energy costs per MWh are twice those of plants in
France. That has a massive impact on the competitiveness of
the vehicles that it manufactures. I am grateful to the
council and the local enterprise partnership for their work
to address the issue by helping to source a local
low-carbon supply for the plant. That will inevitably
require some infrastructure investment, so I urge the
Minister to keep in close contact with the LEP to ensure
that everything possible is done to facilitate the
proposal.
The final piece of the jigsaw is about taking a challenging
part of the current set-up and reusing it to enhance the
site’s overall viability. A good deal of land on site is
surplus to requirements; as the number of people employed
there has shrunk, so has the need for the land that the
plant sits on. At the moment, only about a quarter of the
Astra’s parts are sourced from the UK supply chain, and
there has long been an ambition to increase that
substantially. Given the uncertainties over future customs
arrangements, the opportunity to utilise spare land to help
local automotive suppliers to base themselves closer to the
manufacturing site has many benefits. It will reduce
transportation costs, improve productivity by providing
more certainty about delivery, and benefit the wider
community and environment by reducing lorry miles and thus
emissions. Most of all, it will be a bulwark against a
disadvantageous future customs arrangement.
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(Delyn) (Lab)
My hon. Friend will know that approximately 400 people from
north Wales work at the plant. I urge him, along with the
Minister, to contact the National Assembly for Wales. The
Welsh Assembly Government, in co-operation with the UK
Government, can help with infrastructure and with many of
the issues that he raises.
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I thank my right hon. Friend for his intervention. He and I
work with many other hon. Members in the all-party group on
Mersey Dee North Wales. We recognise the symbiotic
relationship in the north-west between Cheshire, Wirral and
north Wales, and the interchange of people who move between
those areas’ economies. I will certainly work with him and
his Welsh Assembly colleagues on the matter.
Reshoring the supply chain is a clear element of the
Government’s industrial strategy, although so far I have
seen no financial or practical steps taken to deliver it.
We need the Government to designate the area around the
plant as a local enterprise zone to incentivise suppliers
to relocate there. That would benefit the local supply
chain, boost the local economy, provide more jobs and raise
productivity. It would be a tremendous vote of confidence
in the plant, so I urge the Minister to come back with a
positive response as soon as possible. It would not only
help Vauxhall, but help to improve the competitiveness of
other motor manufacturers in the region.
The Vauxhall plants in Luton and in Ellesmere Port are
among the most productive in the PSA family, and some of
the most popular vehicles in the country are made there. We
know that we are in a time of uncertainty and enormous
challenge, but I do not see decline and closure as
inevitable. We need to build on the positives. There can be
no doubt that the ability to say that it supports British
manufacturing boosts the company’s sales. Nor can there can
be any doubt that the local management and workforce are
committed to delivering the best. That commitment must be
matched by the Government, ideally in the ways I have set
out today, so that the owners are in no doubt that this is
a community and a country that they want to invest in. When
I go home, I want to be able to tell my friends and
neighbours that Parliament is united and determined to give
them all the backing they need to enjoy another
half-century of production at Vauxhall Motors.
4.17 pm
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Richard Harrington)
It is a great honour to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Rosindell. I perfectly understand your mistake in confusing
the hon. Member for Wirral South (Alison McGovern) with the
hon. Member for Ashton-under-Lyne (Angela Rayner); I myself
am regularly mistaken for my hon. Friend the Member for
Northampton North (Michael Ellis). I have sued people for
less, but I am sure that that will not be necessary in this
case.
I congratulate the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and
Neston (Justin Madders) on securing this debate, and all
right hon. and hon. Members on their contributions. I take
the automotive industry very seriously, which is why I
asked for it to be included in my portfolio—not just
Vauxhall at Ellesmere Port, but the automotive industry in
general. I have met quite a few people in the industry
since I first became responsible for it, and further to
this debate I will be happy to meet any Members for
constituencies in the area; it might be better if we
organised that through the all-party group, but I leave the
decision to them. I hope that right hon. and hon. Members
know that my door is always open, and I really mean that—it
is not just a platitude. They have said some quite critical
things about the Government, but that is their job and I
quite understand it.
I know that Vauxhall’s history is very important to it. The
PSA senior management, from Carlos Tavares down, have made
clear to my right hon. Friend the Business Secretary the
value they place on Vauxhall’s historic brand and the
commitment of its workforce. They have emphasised their
intention to build on those strengths. That positive
message was reiterated when the PSA Group launched its
turnaround plan in November, which it called PACE, aiming
to bring Vauxhall and its sister brand Opel, which were
with General Motors, to profitability by 2020. Mr Tavares
again made a clear commitment to Vauxhall and expressed the
intention to avoid forced redundancies or the closure of
any Vauxhall plants. He has consistently said that he
wishes to exploit in full the company’s potential in the
UK.
We have regularly met senior management, within both
Vauxhall and the PSA Group, and we will continue to do so.
Discussions have been based on the future strategic
direction for the PSA Group and Vauxhall, and on the
outstanding and supportive environment that exists here for
advanced manufacturing businesses and investment.
I was disappointed, as I am sure everyone in this Chamber
was, at the announcements in October last year and in
January on the voluntary reductions in the workforce at
Ellesmere Port. Vauxhall has made it clear that the
decision was taken to safeguard the competitiveness of the
plant in an ever more challenging environment across
Europe. I accept what hon. Members have said about the
impact of those announcements on their constituencies and
about how few people now work at Ellesmere Port compared
with the past, as well as about the importance of those
people to the local economy and their supply chain.
Ministers—more recently including myself—have stayed in
touch throughout with key decision makers from both
Vauxhall and the PSA Group, and very helpfully with leaders
from Unite and other unions, too. We have pressed the case
for Vauxhall’s plants and highlighted the excellent UK
workforce, and we will continue to do so.
The hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston made a fine
speech—I do not want him to think that I objected to much
of it, because I agreed with a lot of it—but I reject his
claim that we are in “denial” about what is happening. I
will come on to Brexit business in a moment, but I do not
think that claim is true, and I would tell him that
privately or publicly on the record.
We have shown that auto investment is important in the UK.
Recently, Toyota announced that its new model would be
built in its plant at Burnaston and there have been other
announcements in the last year from Nissan, BMW and Lotus.
We can do it, and global demand for vehicles designed,
engineered and manufactured in the UK is strong.
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(City of Chester)
(Lab)
I am most grateful to the Minister for giving way. There is
a Toyota plant next to my constituency, in the constituency
of my right hon. Friend the Member for Delyn (David
Hanson). Are not investment decisions such as those the
Minister has mentioned taken three years in advance? That
decision by Toyota had already been taken and was known
even before the Brexit referendum had taken place.
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but I do
not believe that that is the case; if Toyota was concerned,
particularly about the Brexit issue, whatever decision it
may have taken was certainly not finalised until well after
the referendum. By the way, I look forward to visiting the
Toyota plant in the constituency of the hon. Member for
Wirral West (Margaret Greenwood)—I think it is in her
constituency—quite soon.
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It is in Deeside.
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I do beg your pardon—in Deeside. Well, I look forward to
visiting it anyway, and if I was invited to visit Ellesmere
Port I would be very pleased to do so, subject to an
agreement with the Conservative Whips.
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Ms
I thank the Minister for giving way. All of us who have an
interest in this issue welcome his interest in the
automotive plant, but we want a little more from him than
that, since he is the Minister. Can he give us an answer on
the issue of rate relief? Will the entire area be given the
special status that my hon. Friend the Member for Ellesmere
Port and Neston (Justin Madders) asked for?
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Well, I have seven minutes and I will do my best to satisfy
hon. Members, but as I say my door is open to anybody—
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Ms
Just say yes now; it does not take seven minutes to say
yes.
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The hon. Lady has been in government herself, so she knows
that sometimes seven minutes is not enough to deal with
these matters.
The automotive industry is very important for the
industrial strategy, which is our cornerstone policy. We
have announced quite significant sums of money— £80
million—for battery scale-up facilities in the west
midlands, and I believe that the automotive industry, with
the advanced propulsion centre and everything else, is
absolutely critical to us. I hope that can help the
situation at Ellesmere Port, because it will provide a
framework for a modern industry of the future.
As far as Brexit is concerned, I recognise exactly the
uncertainty that has been mentioned by the hon. Member for
Ellesmere Port and Neston, and others. It is very
important; we are not in “denial” about it. However, what I
would say is that the automotive industry has been used as
a model by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for
Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. For example, it
was well publicised that at Chequers the automotive
industry and its interlink with all of the companies in the
supply chain, and everything in Europe, was used as an
example; what my right hon. Friend would call, quite
rightly, an “exemplar”.
Yesterday’s conclusion of the negotiations between the
Brexit Secretary and , with the
transition period, showed that exactly the sort of thinking
that we need for the automotive industry is recognised by
our own Government and by the European Union. I am
confident that that is largely the result of successful
Government lobbying by the automotive industry—in which, of
course, Vauxhall has taken part.
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I thank the Minister for giving way. Is he saying that,
given that the automotive industry was used as such an
“exemplar”, the kind of arrangements agreed for the period
of transition are those that we can expect to help the
automotive sector in perpetuity?
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Yes, I would hope so. I accept the fact that we are leaving
the European Union, but I believe that common sense will
prevail about the frictionless and free movement of trade
between ourselves and the European Union. I think the hon.
Lady is quite aware of my views on that.
Yesterday’s milestone on the implementation period will
help in the short term to alleviate some of the fears
mentioned by Mr Tavares and others.
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rose—
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I will not take the intervention, but only because of the
time; under normal circumstances, I would be happy to take
it. I do not want to annoy Mr Rosindell on this subject, and
I am determined to do as much as I can. We as a Government
are certainly determined to ensure that the UK continues to
be one of the most competitive locations in the world for
automotive and other advanced manufacturing.
Our vision is of a UK that is a
“champion of free trade based on high standards”,
not on low standards, and we hope that Global Britain will
forge
“a bold and comprehensive economic partnership with our
neighbours in the EU, and reaches out beyond to foster
trade”,
which I hope will help Ellesmere Port.
The right hon. Member for Delyn (David Hanson) said that we
should be involved with the Welsh Assembly and others; I am
very happy to meet Welsh Assembly Members. I have heard very
good reports about the local enterprise partnership and it
seems a very sensible idea to work with it. I would be happy
to include the Welsh Assembly within any discussions on this
matter.
To conclude, we are absolutely committed to a successful
Vauxhall, so that it remains and thrives in the UK, both at
Ellesmere Port and at the company’s plant in Luton. We have
made our strong commitment absolutely clear to the company
and it has full access to the support available through our
industrial strategy. We want Vauxhall to be successful and—
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Ian C. Lucas
Will the Minister give way?
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I have not got time. We want Vauxhall to be part of a
thriving economic situation. [Interruption.]
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(in the Chair)
Order.
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I do beg your pardon, Mr Rosindell. People were asking me to
give way, but I have only two minutes.
I am happy to continue this debate offline, and to have a
meeting with the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston
and any colleagues. Perhaps we could do that through the
all-party parliamentary group; I leave it to them to decide.
Some important questions have been asked, but I assure the
hon. Gentleman that we are not in “denial” and we want a
prosperous Vauxhall. We want Ellesmere Port to be part of
that.
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(in the Chair)
You still have a minute and a half.
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Yes. Thank you, Mr Rosindell.
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Ms
Mr Rosindell—
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(in the Chair)
Order. The debate is over, I am afraid. The Minister has
offered to continue the debate after this, so I suggest that
you speak to him later.
Question put and agreed to.
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