Draft Greater Manchester Combined Authority (Amendment)
Order 2018 The Committee consisted of the following Members:
Chair: Philip Davies † Berry, Jake (Parliamentary Under-Secretary
of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government) † Bradley,
Ben (Mansfield) (Con) Clwyd, Ann (Cynon Valley) (Lab) † Elmore,
Chris (Ogmore) (Lab) † Fabricant, Michael (Lichfield) (Con) Hayes,
Helen (Dulwich and West Norwood) (Lab) †...Request free trial
Draft Greater Manchester Combined
Authority (Amendment) Order 2018
The Committee consisted of the following Members:
Chair:
† Berry, Jake (Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for
Housing, Communities and Local Government)
† Bradley, Ben (Mansfield) (Con)
Clwyd, Ann (Cynon Valley) (Lab)
† Elmore, Chris (Ogmore) (Lab)
† Fabricant, Michael (Lichfield) (Con)
Hayes, Helen (Dulwich and West Norwood) (Lab)
† Heappey, James (Wells) (Con)
† Jenkyns, Andrea (Morley and Outwood) (Con)
Lewis, Mr Ivan (Bury South) (Ind)
† McMahon, Jim (Oldham West and Royton) (Lab/Co-op)
† Morgan, Stephen (Portsmouth South) (Lab)
† Offord, Dr Matthew (Hendon) (Con)
† Philp, Chris (Croydon South) (Con)
Reynolds, Emma (Wolverhampton North East) (Lab)
Robinson, Mr Geoffrey (Coventry North West) (Lab)
† Swire, Sir Hugo (East Devon) (Con)
† Tolhurst, Kelly (Rochester and Strood) (Con)
Adam Evans, Committee Clerk
† attended the Committee
First Delegated Legislation Committee
Monday 19 March 2018
[Philip Davies in the Chair]
Draft Greater Manchester Combined
Authority (Amendment) Order 2018
4.30 pm
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Housing,
Communities and Local Government (Jake Berry)
I beg to move,
That the Committee has considered the draft Greater Manchester Combined
Authority (Amendment) Order 2018.
The draft order was laid before the House on 5 February
2018. As some members of the Committee might know, eight
orders have already been made in relation to Greater Manchester Combined Authority.
The draft order is simply the next step in bringing to life
our devolution deals. Although the order is not
substantial, it is important for enabling the day-to-day
operations of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority.
Since 2011, the combined authority has enabled Greater
Manchester’s local authorities to work together formally on
the interconnected issues of transport, economic
development and regeneration. In November 2014, the
Government and Great Manchester agreed the first
groundbreaking devolution deal, subsequently followed by
four others, including recently at the autumn Budget.
Since the passing of the Cities and Local Government
Devolution Act 2016, seven further orders have been made in
relation to the Great Manchester combined authority,
delivering the functions and the constitutional changes
necessary to deliver the devolution deal. Those orders have
provided for the introduction of a Mayor, given the Mayor
the function of a police and crime commissioner and given
the combined authority powers over housing, planning,
transport, public health, fire and rescue, and, of course,
education and skills. Some of those powers have been
undertaken by the Mayor individually, and others by the
combined authority collectively.
Less than a year has passed since was elected as the first
metro Mayor of Greater Manchester. All the metro Mayors
elected just last May, including , are making a huge
positive impact on their city region. The latest devolution
deal in relation to Great Manchester was made in autumn
2017. It set out new commitments between the Government and
the combined authority to strengthen our approach to joint
working. It included a Housing First pilot to support rough
sleepers with the most complex needs, a local industrial
strategy for Great Manchester and a pretty chunky £243
million of funding from the Government’s transforming
cities fund, to improve transport connections within Great
Manchester.
The draft order amends the constitutional arrangements of
the Great Manchester combined authority in relation to its
housing investment fund, the allowances for members of the
combined authority’s committees and sub-committees, and
setting the precept for the police and crime commissioner
component of the mayoral precept. It is to be made under
the Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction
Act 2009, as amended by the 2016 Act.
The order will amend the constitution of the combined
authority, so that in addition to a simple majority of
members, the Mayor must also be on the winning side of any
votes relating to the housing investment fund for any
decision to be carried. That change to the constitution
implements a commitment that we made in the devolution
agreement and will increase the democratic accountability
of the directly elected Mayor. The housing investment fund
was agreed as part of our initial devolution deal with
Great Manchester in 2014. It is a loan of some £300 million
from the Government, which has enabled the combined
authority to lend more than £420 million to local
developers to help to fund quicker housing delivery across
Great Manchester.
The fund has committed to funding and building more than
5,800 homes on 23 sites across Great Manchester. The
combined authority can pay allowances for the travel and
subsistence of members of the combined authority, but not
for members of its committees and sub-committees. The order
amends those arrangements to enable the combined authority
to pay travel and subsistence allowances to members of its
committees and sub-committees, and to pay other allowances
if the committee or sub-committee member is not a member of
a council within Greater Manchester. In acknowledgment of
that, the combined authority has established an independent
remuneration panel that will make recommendations for those
allowances. The panel will now be able to make
recommendations both to the combined authority and to the
constituent local authorities on the remuneration of all
members of committees and sub-committees.
The draft order also changes the date within the process
for setting the police and crime commissioner component of
the mayoral precept for the Greater Manchester Mayor. That
change is being made at the request of the combined
authority to ensure that the scrutiny process for the
police and crime commissioner precept is always complete
before the precept is issued.
Two of the consultations undertaken by the combined
authority in relation to the devolution deal cover the
issues in the order. Those consultations have been the
subject of previous orders. As most of the proposals
consulted on have already been provided for in legislation,
the combined authority provided the Secretary of State with
a summary of the responses to its consultations, and the
Secretary of State has had due regard to that summary.
Before laying the order, the Secretary of State considered
the statutory requirements under the 2009 Act, which he
believes have been met. Moreover, as the statute requires,
the 10 councils and the combined authority have also
consented to the order.
The order makes constitutional amendments to
the Greater Manchester Combined
Authority that will help to ensure the
continuing effective and efficient operation of that
combined authority to the benefit of all the peoples of
Greater Manchester. The order will help to contribute to
the greater prosperity of Greater Manchester. It will also
pave the way for a more balanced economy, quicker housing
delivery and economic success across the whole of our
northern powerhouse. I therefore commend the order to the
Committee.
4.37 pm
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(Oldham West and Royton)
(Lab/Co-op)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Davies.
I attended an event in Manchester on Friday, where the
Minister was on a panel debate with the Mayor of Greater
Manchester and a number of other Members, and we talked
about the impact of High Speed 2 and investment in
transport in Greater Manchester. During that debate, I
noticed that the balance of power in the relationship
between Greater Manchester and Government has changed. On
the face of it, perhaps that change is subtle, but it is
important.
I think back to when we were negotiating the first
devolution deal and the establishment of a combined
authority, and the relationship was one of subservience
where Greater Manchester would ask Government for powers.
It was anyone’s guess as to how certain powers and areas of
investment were arrived at, but, by and large, the councils
in Greater Manchester waited for Government to tell them
what Government were willing to do. On Friday—I give credit
where it is due—I noticed that the relationship is one of
mutual respect—and also mutual challenge, which is
important if devolution is to develop as our great cities
need. It is important to recognise how things have moved
on.
I found it interesting how different the remuneration
discussions were for when the Mayor was brought in,
compared to those for councillors. Most people recognise
that Mayor of Greater Manchester is a significant role—in
my view, it is on par with being a Minister in terms of
power, responsibility and accountability to the
electorate—and in that context there was a big discussion
about how much that person should be paid, which was
slightly odd to me, because at that time I was a council
leader and was telling us we were
volunteers and boy scouts. The Government need to go back
and look at the role of councillors in the new devolved
settlement, because, just as Parliament can be disconnected
from our towns and cities, I see that within a combined
authority the Mayors or the chairs can become very much
disconnected from the ward councillors representing their
communities at a local level.
There is also an issue about retention and how we attract
decent talent to local government to serve as local
councillors. The decision to take away councillors’
pensions was a backward step—I acknowledge that the
Minister was not in government at that point. That change
was very popular with the public as they like taking
pensions away from councillors because they are not always
quite sure what councillors do.
My view is that councillors play a very important role.
Many make sacrifices in respect of their careers and their
families, and many give up promotions at work to spend
additional time supporting the work of their local
authority. Within this new devolved settlement, the
requirement on those councillors will increase even
further: they will have to contribute to the combined
authority and to its sub-groups. Government ought to be
proactive and look again at what we view the role of
councillors to be in this new settlement. Are they
volunteers? Are they there to be appreciated but not really
taken too seriously? That was the tone when Sir was in charge. Is it
different now, because we recognise that power is being
distributed further down? Will this new settlement reflect
that?
On the housing investment fund, clearly any investment in
housing is important, but the investment in that fund came
at the same time that the housing market renewal scheme was
cancelled in Greater Manchester. For those who do not know,
the housing market renewal scheme was a programme of
demolition, clearance and rebuilding of new, good-quality
homes to replace substandard terraced housing that was
built during the industrial revolution. In 2010, the
housing market renewal scheme was cancelled completely.
That meant that money that was due to go into that new
housing stock was taken away overnight.
The money going in through the housing investment fund is a
shadow of that for the housing market renewal scheme. I
mention that in particular because although the housing
investment fund has its role to play, we need to reflect
the fact that it is about commercially viable sites for
developers that are creditworthy and that are charged at a
commercial interest rate. If the site is commercially
viable, the developer is creditworthy and it will be a
commercial interest rate, why does the developer not just
go to a bank and borrow the money on the open market in the
way that would be expected?
What is the role of Government in this new mix? It ought to
be about addressing those sites where there is a commercial
viability gap. For towns such as Oldham and many areas and
communities in Greater Manchester, there is pressure to
build on the green belt, through the Greater Manchester
spatial framework, because we need units to be built, but
the community wants the brownfield, old industrial sites
that do not have value to local communities to be
redeveloped. The cost of remediation and taking away
contaminated material is so high that for developers it
just does not stack up. I urge the Government to look at
how they can do more to make sure that funding is provided
for bridging the viability gap in those types of scheme.
4.43 pm
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To deal with some of the points made, within the scope of the
draft order, I acknowledge the shadow Minister’s comments on
the new relationship between Government and all our metro
Mayors. Across the country, fantastic individuals such as
, , and are changing politics
across our country. That is a true partnership of people who
want to drive forward our economy together and, where that
true partnership exists, the Government will always welcome
robust discussion with Mayors about what further tools of
growth can be given back to local areas.
Across the whole of our northern powerhouse area, just to
concentrate on the north of England, we are moving to what we
would call northern powerhouse 2.0. The northern powerhouse
is a policy that used to be the Government telling the north
of England what they thought would work to drive forward the
north of England’s economy. Now, we are seeing much more of a
partnership of our metro Mayors, Transport for the North and
our great civic leaders across the north of England, and
Government playing their part. Councillor allowances
ultimately are for the remuneration committee in Manchester
to decide, in relation to the draft order, but it is also for
local authorities to set those allowances using a
remuneration panel. It is quite right that those allowances
are determined at a local level and that Government do not
set them centrally.
I am sure the shadow Minister welcomes the housing fund in
Manchester. He referred to the housing market renewal
programme, which he said at one point was about the
demolition of houses. In my constituency of Rossendale and
Darwen, it never got past the demolition of houses,
notwithstanding the fact that millions of pounds were spent.
I hope he welcomes the fact that, rather than knocking houses
down, the housing investment fund is about building them, and
building them more quickly.
It is great to hear an Opposition Front-Bench Member
championing the free market. That is a pretty rare occurrence
these days—[Interruption.] The hon. Gentleman might be
changing his mind now. I hope that, like me, he will continue
to support the Mayor of Greater Manchester in championing
house building in Manchester, championing the huge success of
the free market in driving forward Manchester’s economy, and
celebrating those new homes that will be built for the
residents of the region.
Question put and agreed to.
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